{"id":2476,"date":"2024-02-13T10:18:00","date_gmt":"2024-02-13T09:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/?p=2476"},"modified":"2024-12-09T10:24:04","modified_gmt":"2024-12-09T09:24:04","slug":"entretien-en-hommage-a-jean-jamin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/2024\/02\/13\/entretien-en-hommage-a-jean-jamin\/","title":{"rendered":"Entretien en hommage \u00e0 Jean Jamin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

By Marc Chemillier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gradhiva : revue d’histoire et d’archives de l’anthropologie , 2024, 37<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Read full interview.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marc Chemillier, vous \u00eates directeur d\u2019\u00e9tudes \u00e0 l\u2019EHESS, membre du CAMS (Centre
d\u2019Analyse et de Math\u00e9matique Sociales). Vos travaux portent sur la mod\u00e9lisation des savoirs
relevant de l’oralit\u00e9, et plus particuli\u00e8rement sur les savoirs musicaux. Ils se situent \u00e0 la
crois\u00e9e de l’anthropologie, de la musicologie, de l’informatique et des math\u00e9matiques. Le lien
entre vos recherches et celles qu\u2019a pu mener Jean Jamin ne semble pas tr\u00e8s apparent au
premier abord. Pouvez-vous nous expliquer comment ce dialogue s\u2019est nou\u00e9 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jean Jamin est intervenu \u00e0 deux reprises dans mon s\u00e9minaire de l\u2019Ecole des Hautes Etudes en
Sciences Sociales, \u00ab Mod\u00e9lisation des savoirs musicaux relevant de l\u2019oralit\u00e9 \u00bb pour y pr\u00e9senter deux
diaporamas qu\u2019il avait con\u00e7us lui-m\u00eame (sc\u00e9nario, choix des images et des sons, montage). Leur
rapport avec le th\u00e8me de mon s\u00e9minaire semblait a priori t\u00e9nu, le premier portant certes sur la
musique, mais celle de la tradition \u00e9crite savante, et le second sur la litt\u00e9rature1
.
Le lien est cependant apparu lors des discussions qui ont suivi ces projections, notamment celle sur
Faulkner, pourtant la plus \u00e9loign\u00e9e de la th\u00e9matique du s\u00e9minaire, \u00e0 travers la question de
l\u2019articulation entre mod\u00e9lisation et communaut\u00e9. Mod\u00e9liser les savoirs d\u2019une communaut\u00e9 de
tradition orale revient \u00e0 leur appliquer une op\u00e9ration qui leur est \u00e9trang\u00e8re. D\u00e8s lors, on est conduit
\u00e0 se demander si cette op\u00e9ration est l\u00e9gitime dans la mesure o\u00f9 les personnes concern\u00e9es ne la font
pas eux-m\u00eames. Autrement dit, quelle valeur \u00e9pist\u00e9mologique peut-on attribuer \u00e0 la mod\u00e9lisation et
quelle compr\u00e9hension de ces savoirs permet-elle d\u2019obtenir ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Read the rest of the interview.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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By Marc Chemillier. Gradhiva : revue d’histoire et d’archives de l’anthropologie , 2024, 37 Read full interview. Marc Chemillier, vous \u00eates directeur d\u2019\u00e9tudes \u00e0 l\u2019EHESS, membre du CAMS (Centred\u2019Analyse et de Math\u00e9matique Sociales). Vos travaux portent sur la mod\u00e9lisation des savoirsrelevant de l’oralit\u00e9, et plus particuli\u00e8rement sur les savoirs musicaux. Ils se situent \u00e0 lacrois\u00e9e […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":2477,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2476","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-articles"],"aioseo_notices":[],"blog_post_layout_featured_media_urls":{"thumbnail":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-150x150.png",150,150,true],"full":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153.png",621,352,false]},"categories_names":{"60":{"name":"Articles","link":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/category\/press\/articles\/"}},"tags_names":[],"comments_number":"0","wpmagazine_modules_lite_featured_media_urls":{"thumbnail":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-150x150.png",150,150,true],"cvmm-medium":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-300x300.png",300,300,true],"cvmm-medium-plus":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-305x207.png",305,207,true],"cvmm-portrait":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-400x352.png",400,352,true],"cvmm-medium-square":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-600x352.png",600,352,true],"cvmm-large":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153.png",621,352,false],"cvmm-small":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153-130x95.png",130,95,true],"full":["https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Screenshot-2024-12-09-102153.png",621,352,false]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2476","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2476"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2476\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2478,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2476\/revisions\/2478"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2477"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2476"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2476"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/reach.ircam.fr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2476"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}